Δημοσιογράφος: About Putin, Belgorod region and security situation in general, we will continue talking with Oleksiy Danilov, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council. Mr. Oleksiy, good evening.
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: Greetings,
Δημοσιογράφος: I immediately ask you to comment on the hot news – Russian media report that the SVR, the foreign intelligence service, said France is preparing a military contingent to send to Ukraine. Do you have any comment?
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: Well, what’s there to comment, we need to understand that some time ago statements were made by the President of France regarding the situation of rebuking Moscow about this, of course it started from the very beginning. They began as always to frighten the whole world with their nuclear weapons, but bear in mind France is also a nuclear country which also has its own potential. After all, in this world, someone has to put this scum in its place, which behaves absolutely incorrectly, to put it very mildly. And what you were saying earlier, that elections took place in the concentration camp for the head of the concentration camp, well, such an event. As for the elections on our territory, they are absolutely, well, I won’t even talk about legality or illegality, it’s a strange story altogether. We are now watching very closely who congratulates the president in Putin’s benches with his alleged victory. It’s quite an interesting list because there is an understanding of who is driven by what interests. And who has what interest, so to speak, when they congratulate this modern Hitler on his alleged re-election.
Δημοσιογράφος: I still would like to return to my first question about the French contingent. Just today on French television they are even discussing where exactly French troops could be deployed, showing two hypothetical scenarios on the map, and all this is commented by a French colonel who talks about 20,000 troops in Ukraine as an option. The SVR, that is, Russian intelligence, talks about 2,000. Do you in principle allow for the possibility of deploying Russian troops in Ukraine?
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: Russian troops in Ukraine, we allow the possibility that they won’t be there and we will definitely not have them here. As for the contingents of certain countries, it is the right of each country, determined by separate, let’s say, decisions, and there is no need to make a tragedy out of it. I want to say that I would like to have an understanding that it’s not about us, it’s about Russia, they for some reason believe that other countries have no right to act according to the law that exists on their territory, they think that everyone must be subordinate only to these intimidations of the modern Fuhrer and nothing else. Each country acts within the framework of its legislation, each country acts within the framework of its interests. And the main thing is to respect international law, which is completely absent in Moscow.
Δημοσιογράφος: Does the official Ukrainian government consider such a question?
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: I emphasize once again, in the modern world you can’t say that this won’t happen. The world is quite turbulent, the world is quite unpredictable in actions and decisions. I want to say, we all remember what kind of events took place regarding the position of France and Germany, and we are very grateful to the politicians who have finally changed their point of view regarding relations with Russia, changed their point of view regarding the help to our country. And this is a very positive thing. I want to say that when time passes and historians will describe these events, they will write the following – that Ukraine finally awakened Europe. With our actions, we awakened Europe, they were in such a political slumber, believed that there were no threats from authoritarian, autocratic, totalitarian Russia, and finally it is now getting through to them that it is very dangerous, first of all for them. And today we are defending not only our country, not only our independence, we are today defending Europe, and this is already absolutely clear to everyone.
Δημοσιογράφος: You wrote on Facebook yesterday, I quote, “Putin starts threatening with nuclear weapons when the situation at the front and in the world worsens for him,” end quote. But is it really worsening? Can you give examples? Because it’s not very clear to many outside analysts that, for example, the situation at the front is relatively stable.
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: The situation at the front is always difficult. I am a proponent of not talking about victory tomorrow from day one. I say the front is a very difficult thing and it’s difficult every day, and it doesn’t matter if we are on the defensive or on the offensive, the front is very, very difficult for all those people who are there today on our side, for which we are sincerely grateful to them, because they hold all this on their steel nerves, on their life, on their health. As for the situation related to, bear in mind that someone thinks that everything is fine with him, he drew himself there as a dictator with 80-something percent, it doesn’t matter. Russia is in an extreme stage when it begins the process of absolute decolonization. This will happen at an accelerated pace, and this is what the West needs to prepare for. And the fact that some countries do not want Russia to decolonize, I want to assure you that history is constructed in such a way and works in such a way that no one will ask anyone. And at one point, very interesting events can occur that will definitely be to our benefit. And I emphasize once again, the West must be ready for the moment when Russia will be decolonized in the near future.
Δημοσιογράφος: You said we are closely watching who congratulates Putin, but it seems to me more important is who congratulates him non-publicly, supports him, while pretending that there are no relations with the Kremlin. Can you say what countries, what leaders are we talking about here?
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: This is not a simple question. Once again, I emphasize, for many countries business comes first, let’s say, the issue of democracy, the issue of values, many have forgotten a little. They need to be sent back to the situation when, at one time, I have already given this example, regarding Pius XI, who, as a sign of protest when the Fuhrer came to Italy, went to his residence so as not to meet with him under any circumstances. And after that there was Pius XII who welcomed the Fuhrer and believed that it was necessary to negotiate with him and so on. Bear in mind that history puts everything in its place, it’s just that some do not want to remember the history of the beginning, conditionally speaking, 1914-1917 of the last century, how Russia was actually created, who helped, who helped then this coup, which at that time was called the October Revolution of 1917, and many, many other things. If someone thinks that once every 100 years such a combination can be worked out, let’s say, then I want to say that it will no longer work, because the world has changed. And with such simple templates that someone gathered somewhere and decided, it doesn’t work that way, this is just the example that we cited on February 24, 2022, when everyone thought that someone somewhere could agree on something, and we have no ability here, a vivid example that everything works quite differently. Once again, I emphasize that Russia has no chance. Whoever congratulates him today, openly or secretly, whoever transmits certain messages to him, everything works in the modern world quite differently. In the modern world, you can’t hide anything, sooner or later everyone will know everything. And the fact that today some people think that such non-public support for Putin will help in one way or another, whether in elections or in some other situation, once again I emphasize, a very short period of time will pass when everyone will learn the true motives and the true things that are happening.
Δημοσιογράφος: Putin is going to China in May, Scholz is going there before that, and Xi himself is going to Paris, in the context of all these meetings, can we talk about how the relationship between Putin and Xi has changed? Will Putin be able to achieve any goals, what are his goals as of now? Because the last time they met, Putin seemed to be not very satisfied with the results of the negotiations with Xi Jinping.
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: Putin considers himself the leader of some kind of powerful state. Once again, I emphasize, Putin is the head of a concentration camp, which he single-handedly made. The population that agreed to live in a concentration camp has no freedom of speech, no freedom of choice or any other democratic procedures. And the fact that it is very difficult for him to communicate with Xi is quite understandable today. He is very strongly dependent on China, because as far as economic issues are concerned, apart from China, he no longer has such powerful economic partners with whom he could have any business. China, of course, as a large country, is taking advantage of this situation. They care about their Ukraine and make decisions in the interests of their country, not in the interests of Putin for sure. They can temporarily be, let’s say, people who can cooperate on this or that issue, but this is definitely not a strategic cooperation, because China has claims on the territory that is temporarily in Russia today. And this is not some kind of secret, keep in mind that the maps that are already being published in China clearly define the territories in the Far East that they believe should historically go to China.
Δημοσιογράφος: You said that the decolonization of Russia is inevitable. Does the RDK Legion “Freedom of Russia”, the Cyprus battalion, contribute to this, and are other regions of Russia, more remote ones, joining in, or is it possible that you, as the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, simply hear signals about the experience of these Russian volunteers somewhere in the Far East and North of Russia?
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: I would not like to publicly emphasize certain things now, but bear in mind that in Russia, slowly, let’s say, if we take that water begins to bubble at 100 degrees Celsius, keep in mind that it’s already 60-70 there, and in some regions it’s approaching 90. And it will boil there, and they will not be able to extinguish it with anything. And this is not even a matter of decades, as it was before, it will happen in a very short period of time. As for Russia, the borders of Muscovy are clearly defined, and the rest of the territories that they once captured with the consent of some countries, if you look at the historical, let’s say, facts, then keep in mind that the right to self-determination, the right of a nation to live in their own country, no one removed from the UN Charter, and the question is only of time when new countries will appear there. Someone doesn’t like it because it’s new relationships, new territories, you need to understand the new leadership of these territories, you need to establish some kind of relationship with them, and many, many other things, but this is a historical thing that will definitely catch up with us in the near future, and it will definitely come. In the world there is nothing permanent, especially since this is the last country that has colonies on its territory, under its control.
Δημοσιογράφος: And yet, can we now only talk about the Belgorod region, now it is known that the authorities are taking 9,000 children out of this region. Does this mean that the Russian volunteers are entrenching themselves in the territories, the Russians can’t do anything to counter the Russian volunteers, and what actually should end this, if not a raid, then an operation?
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: I want to note that keep in mind that in the Russian press you have almost no information about the events that are happening there. They are silent about all this, but it’s a very simple thing – how did it happen that Russia, as they believe, on its territory, has armed Russians today who are there and no one can, let’s say, put an end to this issue? But this is not a question for us, this is a question for Russia, because Russia said that Russia has no borders. And we have a question about what, let’s say, borders are we talking about, if Russia itself declared that Russia has no borders, it has, let’s say, the Universe, and so on. Because as for the borders today, it’s like for us the usual Belgorod or some other territory, let’s wait for the historical time when justice and the Lord will establish new borders on Muscovy, I can say for sure that in the form in which they are today, they simply physically can no longer manage in the coordinate system built by this Fuhrer, they can no longer manage such a country with such a territory, with such a population, with such different issues regarding religion, many other problems. They simply physically can no longer do it, and therefore the final, let’s say, tour of Putin was the last, it was his last performance, you can be sure of that, you can record that there will be no elections at all in which Putin will participate in 2030. Everything will be much faster. And once again, I emphasize, these are their actions, directly his and his clique, who built themselves such a syndicate of a small number of people who determine everything on the territory that is now called for some reason incomprehensible, the historical name of all these territories is Muscovy, and it is much smaller than the territory that is currently geographically assigned to a country called Muscovy.
Δημοσιογράφος: When we last spoke, you talked about three to four difficult months for Ukraine after Putin’s election, and then it would supposedly get better. Do you already see signs of this deterioration and where exactly our position should worsen?
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: A difficult situation, as far as the processes related to the decisions of our partners are concerned, and this is not a secret, we have to treat this very calmly, political processes, electoral processes in the countries of our partners begin, they cannot but affect our country, our country is on the agenda of any country in the world. And this is the challenge that we now need to go through, gritting our teeth. The events that are taking place in the electoral process, the first situation, the events that are taking place in Poland, I said that sooner or later someone in Poland will be ashamed of what is happening there, but we will all go through, I am more than confident in this matter that we will go through this difficult, complex path. And the exact victory will be ours, because we understand how the modern world is built today. Once again, Ukrainians awakened Europe, this is a very, very important factor, this was a very important action, precisely through our confidence in victory to do this.
Δημοσιογράφος: The last question I will ask you – the Sumy region is being attacked very heavily, literally being wiped off the face of the earth, many say that this is the Russians’ response to what is happening in the Belgorod region, and at the same time it is noted that there is no risk of a breakthrough of the border. Can the situation change, in particular, if the Russians manage to wipe out many settlements in Sumy with these “Grads” in the end, we do not yet have an optimal response to this kind of aggression?
Αλεξέι Ντανίλοφ: I want to remind all of us, remember February, March, April of 2022, when we begged, the President begged every day – close the sky, close the sky, save the lives of our children. Unfortunately, at that time there was a situation where no one wanted to interfere in this, and today, when the Russians continue to kill our children, destroy our places and villages, once again I emphasize, it will be very difficult. And this is not a response there to Belgorod, someone is telling something about it, this is the usual behavior of the modern Fuhrer, and for him, human life is not some value that, well, should be for any civilized person. But I want to remind you that sooner or later he will be absent on the dock, I don’t know if it will be The Hague or some other place on this planet, but they will definitely all these scum will sit on the dock under the international criminal court or some other tribunal and they will definitely be held accountable for all this.
Δημοσιογράφος: Thank you, I was talking to Oleksiy Danilov, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council.
